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So my previous solar article on "Why I finally got a solar system" answered why I finally did end up getting a solar system, and this article is dedicated to explain my whole solar install experience.

Even though I was very happy with my final price and overall solar package, there’s no doubt that a solar investment is still a lot of money (offset against electricity savings or not) and it’s a big decision for most people.

Solar PV system 5kw installed on shed roof

My 5kW PV System installed on shed roof (image above)

This is why the hunt for solar took me so long, because I wanted to be convinced beyond doubt that not only was it the right decision, price, and time to get a PV system, but I also had the right solar company for the job. I needed to be confident the equipment used in my solar system (like the panels and inverter) was high quality and the installation crew were professional and not fly by the night con men.

Deciding on who to install your solar system

It goes without saying (but I’ll say it anyway), make sure the solar installation company you commission for your PV system is trustworthy and professional. You’re making a substantial investment that costs a lot of money and needs to be done right. You can check the credibility of a solar company through many different means and some are:
  • Online reviews – these days a lot of peopldo a solar review online image shows lady with pce document their retail experiences good and bad on the internet. There’s a good chance the solar company you are thinking of going with has some reviews about them online somewhere it’s just a matter of doing a search. There are even websites dedicated to solar company reviews and government sites showing accredited installers. Not all reviews online are credible though so be objective about what you read and just because a company has “five” stars, or “one” out of five it doesn’t necessarily mean one’s better than the other. Cross matching reviews about the same company on several sites to get a full picture and the number of customers or people surveyed makes a big difference in how much you can trust online reviews.
  • Customer feedback – Sometimes a solar company’s own website will have a feedback page or a Facebook business page where you can see what their customers are asking and saying about them. Is the company replying to questions? How do they respond to both positive and negative feedback? Check their “about us” page and see how long they have been operating – if their website doesn’t answer this basic question and lacks basic information – be careful. You can learn about the company’s ethos through this method.  
  • Word of mouth – An oldie but a goodie, you can gauge a lot about a business by asking around locally. Perhaps you have a neighbour or resident nearby who has a PV system, if you do, ask them who they got to install it and are they happy with the outcome. Work colleagues, friends, and acquaintances – don’t be afraid to ask who has got solar, who with, why, and how is it going.  
  • Horse’s mouth – Talking to the solar company you're thinking of commissioning and their representatives is something people don’t do enough of. Getting to know your solar company or the sales rep is a very good way to see if the company is dodgy or professional. Remember, you should never be pressured into buying solar and a good solar company/rep will give you their time to explain and answer all your questions then let you walk away to think it over. In the meantime, you can have a relationship with your solar company for months whilst you decide – there’s no rush. Keep in contact with the rep and get updates on prices, etc and when you’re satisfied they are a good, stable, honest, professional, business then cut the deal.     
  • Equipment and subcontractors – In line with the point above, get to know what equipment the solar company uses; for example, do they use recognised quality panels and inverters or cheap ones? What is their warranty like? Can they produce examples of successful solar installs they have conducted? Do they install using their own people or do they subcontract out? If the solar company subcontracts who do they use and does the subcontracting company have a good reputation also?

Checking the credibility of your solar installer is definitely homework you need to do to ensure you sort out the flowers from the weeds and get the best PV system possible.

My solar installation (set-up, equipment, fees, charges, finance etc)

This next part of the article deals with the installation and practical costs associated with my solar system. Of course, my situation will be different from other solar installations but this information may be used as a guide to roughly compare fees and charges for anyone considering buying their own PV system.

Solar install measuring on shed roof survey for 5kw pv system

Image above shows the proposed solar site being surveyed for the job

Size

I decided to get the maximum size PV system allowed by our state regulations here in QLD which is 5kW (for a residential property) this includes 27 German made PV panels. If I was going to install solar, I wanted to make a real dent in my power bill not just wipe off a few dollars so I went as big as I could. On a good day my system could produce up to 26 kW hours of electricity, on average about 20 - 22 kW hours per day. The inverter has a 5kWcapacity (naturally) and is a Chinese made Samil Power SolarRiver series model, with an LCD screen showing power output accumulatively and in real time. Also, it has wireless capability so I can monitor the systems performance via my PC or mobile phone – cool hey.

Brett (from Green and Gold Solar) had a good idea for people wanting a 5kW system but couldn’t afford the cost – he suggested getting a smaller system but installing a larger 5kW inverter. By doing this a person can still buy into solar and then add panels in stages as they can afford them. Personally, I decided just to get the full 5kW system; although, the staggered “grow your system as you can afford it” is a good option for those who don’t want to outlay that much money at once. 

Solar install frames brackets stage done on shed roof 5kw pv system

Here are the frames and brackets required for panels when the roof pitch/angle is not appropriate (image above)

 
Positioning

However, it’s one thing to want a big system and another to have the roof capacity to support it. My house has an East/West aspect so the pitch of my roof doesn’t face North (which is the optimal direction panels should face to get the best sun benefit); therefore, if I installed solar panels on my house roof my panels wouldn’t work to the best capacity. Also, roof space for such a sized system would be an issue anyway.    

My shed happened to be the best location for my solar panels. However, due to the pitch of my shed roof being only slight, brackets/frames had to be installed to hold the solar panels at the right angle and facing north. These brackets/frames work out to be about $40 each or around $700-$1000 extra onto the overall installation cost for a 5kW system.
 
How long did the installation take?
 

With three guys on site, they arrived at my place at 7:00 AM and worked steadily with plenty of short breaks (due to the extremely hot weather conditions). The job was complete and handed over to me by 4:00PM that afternoon, thereby taking 9 hours to complete the install from start to finish.

Although my system is capable of running and fully working, I was advised by the installers not to turn the system on until the state electricity authority (Energex) had ratified the installation and changed my metre from a dial to digital.  Hopefully, my system will be authorised for use within 7 days and whilst I wait for the electricity authority to come out and check the installation/change my metre to digital, I’ll just have to keep my system off – yeah right…

Solar install fixing panels to frames 5kw pv system

Half way through fixing the panels to the frames - stage 3 (image above)

Who installed my system?
 

If you have read my previous solar articles you would guess which company I got to install my system – Green and Gold Solar, naturally. Obviously, I am very happy with how the whole process went from the site inspection and explanation, to the quote, the install, and follow-up.

The install team were sub-contractors organised by Green and Gold Solar called NEXTGEN (Next Generation Electrical and Data) and were highly professional and qualified. On site for my install, they had three members two of whom were qualified master electricians. The wiring and overall workmanship was neat, they constantly communicated with me to ensure I knew what was going on, and they ensured I understood the workings of the system they were installing. 
 

Were there any issues with the install?

There were no major issues with my PV solar installation. However, the job wasn’t a piece of cake and there were certain adjustments/calculations/measurements/considerations the install team needed to make to ensure the install was done right.
 
Things like:
  •  ensuring the panels were angled correctly to take advantage of the sun;
  •  spacing the panels out across the roof so they wouldn’t shade each other;
  •  securing the frames to my wooden shed framework;
  • wiring between all the panels;
  • placement of the panels on the roof to avoid shading from large trees; and
  • positioning the inverter on the inside door of the shed and making the electrical wiring job neat.   

solar install on shed roof 5kw pv system complete

Solar PV system complete including conduit to run electrical wire between all panels (image above)

Apart from that, I had a medium sized gum tree right next to my shed on the western side which started to cast a shadow over ½ the building at around 2:00PM. This would have had an effect on my PV systems output plus I was worried about branches and debris falling on the panels so I dropped the tree on the day before the install.

My costs and finance plan
 

I talked about feed in tariffs in my last solar article and they should be kept in mind when talking about total costs overall because if you do buy solar with a feed in tariff scheme attached, your rebates are an important feature.

So too are small scale technology certificates (STCs). STCs are government issued green energy points for installing a green energy system and can be kept or used as a discount on your system. It’s another incentive to encourage people to install green energy in businesses and homes alike. My system received 134 STCs, which I used as a discount off my PV system. STCs will vary depending on market conditions, government regulations, where a person lives (where the solar system is installed), the size of the system, and other variables.
 

Also, my solar purchase was helped by a State Government lump sum rebate of $1000, which was removed from the total overall cost and claimed back by the installer rather than me having to pay the extra grand and then claim it back myself from the Government.  

solar calculator finance planI didn’t want to pay cash outright for my solar system so I decided to opt for a finance plan offered by my solar company. Finance approval for my loan took 24 hours and wasn’t invasive at all, although, I did have to cough-up $1000 for a deposit. And, due to the interest on the loan being calculated upfront, it was added to the overall cost and a monthly payment plan calculated. The whole finance deal was completely see-through.  
 

Computer modelling was done on my specific situation using our average quarterly power bill, likely power generation, and feed in tariff. After these variables were entered into the computer,the program showed my repayments for the loan to install my solar system would be cancelled out by the savings I make through generating my own electricity. In other words, I would have been paying the same money (or more) over the next 12 months on electricity anyway, if I didn’t get a PV system.  

Everyone’s situation is different so I’m not going to detail the exact figures of my repayments to money saved as an offset for my finance plan; suffice to say, if you can’t or prefer not to pay for the system outright then working out a finance plan with your solar installer or financial company is a really good way to get your PV system sooner. Unlike borrowing for a car or other depreciating asset, a solar system actually adds value to your property immediately and starts making/saving you money once it is paid out and in some cases it’s possible to make money whilst still paying the system off – think about that…
 

Here is the actual Cost breakdown of my PV system fully installed and covering everything including changing the metre box from dial to digital:

 
  • Basic installation - $7,500 (with Government rebates);
 
  • Extra for brackets and frames - $700;
 
  • Interest/fees for borrowing on a finance plan over 2.5 years paid up front - $1,800; and
 
  • Total cost for full system = $10,000 (includes initial $1000 deposit)
 
# By disclosing my costs, I'm not implying the prices I paid (above) for my system and finance is the best on the market at the time - this is just meant to give people a guide.

Warranty

 
 
My warranties were pretty clear:
 
  • Panels – 25 years;
 
  • Inverter – 5 years; and
 
  • Workmanship – 12 months.
 
How to know if my system is working correctly?Inverter lcd showing snapshot of that day (cloudy)

Once my system was installed the installation electrician gave me a “soldiers five” (rundown) on my whole system. He explained I should take the solar readings to ensure my system was performing as it should.

It’s recommended to take kW/h readings every few weeks and note the overall kW/h gain as this is an easier way then checking it daily as the fluctuations can be misleading. Every two weeks log the system output and see if the output is consistent with the installer’s advice and manufactures ratings. If the output drops dramatically over a two week period for no real reason (like two weeks straight of rainy, overcast weather) then you should contact your installer and have the system checked.
 

Checking the system daily for fluctuations is pointless because daily outputs can vary dramatically and be completely normal.

Remember this is a “solar” system and will only work in daylight. I laughed when my solar installation manager told me of the regular phone calls he receives from concerned solar customers who ring him in the middle of the night to complain that their solar system is not working. He then has to politely explain (again) that without sunlight the system automatically shuts down and he reassures them when they check the system in the morning it will be working fine.    
 

A solar system power output as described by the manufacturer is calculated over a full year; therefore, the system will not likely be outputting its maximum on a daily or seasonal basis (like through winter). If installed correctly and in a good position, collectively your system should meet its manufactures specified rating upon install over the 12 month period.

solar inverter installed in shed near doorway neat

5kW inverter fixed to wall inside shed near doorway (image above)

 
Conclusion
 

I have to say I am completely relieved to have my solar system installed and I’m eager to monitor how much of a difference our PV system will make to our electricity bills and usage. I’m glad my installation went well and I felt like I had done my homework to ensure I received the best price, equipment, and workmanship, possible at the time.   

Time will tell for sure, but now that we will be able to cover most, if not all, of our electricity usage through generating our own power via solar, the feeling is immensely satisfying. No more the victim of accelerating power prices, my family and I are now protected into the future.
 

And that’s exactly how I feel about it. For a similar outlay, I would rather pay my own solar system off over 2.5 years (maybe less) than give it to some rich power company’s CEO and shareholders. In a few years, we’ll own our PV system outright and the tables will have turned from me getting ripped-off by my electricity provider to them paying me…

I’ll be writing more in the future about my solar system and other green energy ideas so be sure to return to Self Sufficient Me often for new articles. You might like to read, "Why I finally got a solar system" if you haven't done so already.
 

If you would like to make a comment about this article you can do so below in the comments section.

You may like to discuss this article in more depth, if so, go to our forum at Self Sufficient Culture, sign-up, and start a discussion in our energy section.
 
Thanks for reading and thanks for your support.
 

Look, and see the Earth through her eyes…

Mark Valencia – Editor SSM    
 

Disclosure: This article is not a paid advertisement and although it mentions my installer (Green and Gold Solar) I was not given any payments, discounts, or special treatment, for stating them is this story. Brett, the manager of the company is a friend of mine and a fellow tennis club member at our local sports centre.  

 

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Hi Imran, this question would be best asked on our forum in our "Energy" section - feel free to join up and ask your question there http://www.selfsufficientculture.com/forums/energy.14/

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Hi guys can some one guide me how to wire 15 panels of 230 watt with 5 kva mks inverter or 60 amp 145 volt mppt charge controller please share a wiring diagram i want to install my system by myself. Thanks in advance

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Thanks Brett, appreciate you posting your technical expertise about my inverter and monitoring this comment thread. For, the record my system has been pumping out the power since its install especially in this hot Brisbane summer weather and I'm...

Thanks Brett, appreciate you posting your technical expertise about my inverter and monitoring this comment thread. For, the record my system has been pumping out the power since its install especially in this hot Brisbane summer weather and I'm confident I've made the right decision to go solar - couldn't be happier! Cheers

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Good afternoon Mark and @susternable I hope I can help with some of your comments. The inverter used in Marks installation is a dual input inverter which can take multiple independent strings. The inverter can take a maximum of 6kW if and when...

Good afternoon Mark and @susternable I hope I can help with some of your comments. The inverter used in Marks installation is a dual input inverter which can take multiple independent strings. The inverter can take a maximum of 6kW if and when required. Good advice from @susternable to match the panels if and when you add them on at a later date. Cheers Brett

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Thanks "@susternable" for your comments and advice on being careful not to mismatch panels on expansion and ensuring you get an inverter capable of multiple string inputs if you wish to expand the system size later. You sound like you have...

Thanks "@susternable" for your comments and advice on being careful not to mismatch panels on expansion and ensuring you get an inverter capable of multiple string inputs if you wish to expand the system size later. You sound like you have experience in this area and we appreciate your input. Cheers mate

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Mark, Thanks for your thinking and experience! A comment on the discussion of sizing the inverter for 'aspirational' future additions to the system. Brett (GGE) suggested the 5kW inverter for expanding the system later. Good advice however the...

Mark, Thanks for your thinking and experience! A comment on the discussion of sizing the inverter for 'aspirational' future additions to the system. Brett (GGE) suggested the 5kW inverter for expanding the system later. Good advice however the total performance of the panels is strongly influenced by any poor performing panels in a string. Even more important when you choose to install in stages - even matching panels of different ages will begin to develop different performance. Worse if the type of panel is not available for a later addition to the system. What to do? Spend a little more on an inverter designed to take multiple independent panel string inputs. This will ensure you maximise the power from your hard-earned panels!

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